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Host used to put a lot of weight towards that view--of the only concrete thing in the world being one's own self-awareness, but me existing has kinda thrown a wrench into that for him
If anyone here's willing to try and work through something with me to prove to me that something esoteric can really exist-function-whatever, be my guest
Something that'd give me, in my own experience/awareness, concrete, undeniable proof that it exists among everything else in the world, I guess
Making wild wild claims that sound like you doing just what the Greeks did in years long past, ger
Okay so basically what I'm really trying to get at is that "real" and "imagined" are concepts, because you can never know anything to be true other than the fact that you exist and are aware
The ancient greeks knew not what the sun was or that the world was round--Apollo's chariot drove the sun across the sky as a result, in order to give explanation to the unknown
Making claims such as "we're all characters in God's dream" sounds a lot like that to me, at face value
Real gains its weight in the sense of our lack of control over it--you can change your perception consciously given enough practice, but in the end, what's 'real' will still be there
Unconscious determinants that change your perception would leave you knowing no better of what's "real" and what is changed by those factors--everything you take in without knowledge of it being altered is effectively real
Your thoughts, decisions and actions are always a result of your genetic design and your conditioning through Life. You always have the feeling of free will, but your own will is never different from the will of Life. Once that is deeply recognized, our psychological attitude of guilt, blame and expectations falls away and unbroken peace of mind persists regardless of pleasure or pain. That peace of mind is the happiness that's available for human beings
"I mean, what proof do you have that everything is so pre-determined?"
It's just a matter of how you look at things. The sperm and the egg meet. The genetic blueprint is formed and the organism begins to grow. From the very first moment, it is conditioned in the mother's womb. For the rest of its Life, the organism never stops growing
Fun fact: a new-ish study into QM says that, on that level, there might be no such thing as objective reality in that two observers can observe conflicting states.
The "goal" is peace of mind, inner silence, non-resistance with what is. The pointers are just an effective way of getting you there, if you're interested in it
My spiritual teacher also often uses the analogy that both mechanical physics and quantum physics are "real", it just depends on the scale you're looking at
8:33 AM
Same thing goes for Life: real, and imagined by God
Wasn't there something floating around not long back related to QM related to all this, positing that consciousness gave rise to effective reality through means of observational states and all that jazz
8:34 AM
For us, in the end, we leave it at we'll-find-out-when-our-time-comes and that's that
So maybe a more "reasonable" way of framing this is that consciousness doesn't so much give rise to ALL of reality, but certainly your EXPERIENCE of the world happens within consciousness, and there could be no experience without it
The one solid fact there is is that there's a limited time we've got on this rock
How me and host interpret that certainly differs, but
8:36 AM
There's definitely big unknowns out there, but the best thing to do is to accept them as unknowns, and not preach false truths for the sake of comfort, if you ask me
Allow me one last statement to the effect of these not being intended as "truths", just pointers intended to aid with peace of mind with your experience regardless of pleasure or pain, which by all accounts is possible
8:37 AM
If you don't "believe" in the possibility of peace of mind, or don't find yourself seeking it, yeah none of this matters
i have tulpa has anyone tried feeding their tulpa… some I've been feeding for awhile, "An inch of beer in a glass or coffee and candy" which is flavourless when they are done depending what i give them but they don't talk so good while the instantly made tulpa i have my one tulpa help me make talk and are seen fine by my ears and eyes (I know this is subjective) and help making the older ones talk?
